Monday, March 14, 2011

FLNchat Archive: 14 Mar 2011 8:00 - 9:00 PM Atlantic time


8:00 pmFLNchat:Welcome everyone! Some "rules" before we start: always add #flnchat in your message; add the Q number if you remember :-)
8:01 pmrandommind:@FLNchat thanks for the tips! it's been a long time since I've participated in a twitter chat! #flnchat
8:02 pmhondomac:Yep - much appreciated @flnchat #flnchat
8:02 pmFLNchat:This is the very first #flnchat! Thank you so much for joining. Your moderators tonight are @bitdepth and @HenderJL, and me.
8:03 pmFLNchat:And now Introductions! Q0: Please introduce yourself and tell us one way you engage flexible learning. #flnchat
8:04 pmhondomac:Thanks to @bitdepth, @HenderJL, and @FlnChat for moderating #flnchat
8:05 pmrandommind:Q0: I'm Carolyn Campbell & I'm an instructional designer at NSCC! #flnchat
8:05 pmstewarka:Q0: I'm Kathleen Stewart. I teach online in the nscc's school of AANM, and Flexible Learning is the core of my FLCP. #flnchat
8:05 pmrandommind:@stewarka hey, kathleen ... hello from Wolfville! #flnchat
8:06 pmhondomac:Q0 Ian MacLeod here acting dean for the school of AA&NM at NSCC and a great believer and supporter of FL #flnchat
8:08 pmhondomac:Q0 I think FL is going to increasingly be the way that many of our learners will engage with us #flnchat
8:08 pmFLNchat:Welcome welcome! next I will post the first question. Please respond not only to the questions but also to the others. #flnchat
8:08 pmrandommind:@HenderJL hi Janice! #flnchat
8:08 pmFLNchat:RT @hondomac: Q0 I think FL is going to increasingly be the way that many of our learners will engage with us #flnchat
8:08 pmbitdepth:Q0: Chris Campbell. Teaching Screen Arts at the NSCC in Dartmouth. I help learners to learn in ways that fit their lives. #flnchat
8:09 pmFLNchat:Q1: What is Flexible Learning (FL) to you? #FLNchat
8:09 pmFLNchat:RT @bitdepth: Q0: Chris Campbell. Teaching Screen Arts at the NSCC in Dartmouth. I help learners to learn in ways that fit their lives. #flnchat
8:10 pmrandommind:Q1: flexible learning is being able to teach in your slippers in a place where you feel comfy #flnchat
8:10 pmhondomac:Q0 Love how you put that @bitdepth - that really is what FL is about - very cool! #flnchat
8:10 pmrandommind:Q1: it's getting to know your learners from the inside out #flnchat
8:11 pmFLNchat:Q1: Flexibility is providing options for learners and faculty #flnchat
8:12 pmFLNchat:Q1: @randommind in your slippers, at the cafe, from the beach! #flnchat
8:12 pmrandommind:Q1: it's being able to connect with your peeps on a chilly nova scotia evening and feeling like you're with them ... somehow #flnchat
8:12 pmhondomac:Q1 FL is learning that fits the needs and wants and learning styles of the learners and the teacher - options & opportunities #flnchat
8:12 pmbitdepth:@randommind Teaching in your slippers is definitely flexible learning. Comfort is important to be able to learn. #flnchat
8:13 pmrandommind:@FLNchat all at the same time! :) #flnchat
8:13 pmhondomac:Q1 I vote for from the beach!! #flnchat
8:13 pmHenderJL:Q1: FL is not being afraid to click around when you're lost. #flnchat
8:13 pmrandommind:@hondomac i second that! #flnchat
8:13 pmHenderJL:Yeah - finally I see my messages! Love it! :-) #flnchat
8:14 pmrandommind:@HenderJL love that! right on! #flnchat
8:14 pmFLNchat:Q1: @hondomac -- Options and opportunities! this is what it is about! #flnchat
8:14 pmhondomac:Q! @ randommind - great point - with FL that sense of connection or community important #flnchat
8:14 pmFLNchat:RT @HenderJL: Q1: FL is not being afraid to click around when you're lost. #flnchat
8:15 pmbitdepth:@hondomac Options are great for learners & teachers, Ian. Whether it's a different style or time or place to provide opportunities. #flnchat
8:15 pmhondomac:Q1 - we keep saying be where your learners are - that's what FL lets you do... #flnchat
8:16 pmrandommind:@hondomac and where we are, too! physically and ... in ... uh ... other ways, too (see earlier comment re: slippers) #flnchat
8:16 pmbitdepth:@HenderJL Clicking around when you're lost can be fun. Feeling safe with support can really make a big difference with technology. #flnchat
8:17 pmhondomac:@ bitdepth - you are so right - style ,time, and place are things that FL can give folks that TL (traditional learning?) can't #flnchat
8:17 pmrandommind:Q1: heard a great quote from Norm Vaughan Friday ... he said faculty didn't like to teach in a classroom because it was INFLEXIBLE! #flnchat
8:17 pmFLNchat:Q1: the grandboys are in the next room... they will expect their college to be this flexible! #flnchat
8:17 pmrandommind:Q1: you couldn't move anything in a classroom #flnchat
8:18 pmFLNchat:RT @randommind: Q1: heard a great quote from Norm Vaughan Friday ... he said faculty didn't like to teach in a classroom because it was INFLEXIBLE! #flnchat
8:18 pmrandommind:@bitdepth @HenderJL it feels like exploring #flnchat
8:19 pmHenderJL:Q1: With flexible learning, the students can be given more power - and more responsibility for their learning. #flnchat
8:19 pmhondomac:Q1 - interesting comment that faculty didn't like the inflexibility - I think for some it's the flexibility of FL that scares them #flnchat
8:19 pmFLNchat:Q1: It is ironic that in an effort to be scheduling flexible, shared classroom spaces are more inflexible re:rearranging furniture! #flnchat
8:20 pmbitdepth:@FLNchat The more the technology becomes commonplace the less reason there is not to use it. We teach where we live, work and play. #flnchat
8:20 pmrandommind:@hondomac ha! good point! classrooms are safe? #flnchat
8:20 pmHenderJL:@randommind You're so right - especially bodies and minds. #flnchat
8:20 pmrandommind:RT @bitdepth: @FLNchat The more the technology becomes commonplace the less reason there is not to use it. We teach where we live, work and play. #flnchat
8:21 pmFLNchat:Q2: We know what FL is, and given the givens, how can we do it more? #flnchat
8:21 pmFLNchat:RT @bitdepth: @FLNchat The more the technology becomes commonplace the less reason there is not to use it. We teach where we live, work and play. #flnchat
8:21 pmhondomac:Q1 @flnchat - will the grandboys have that expectation? Are they being exposed to FL now? If so that's an important fact us #flnchat
8:21 pmbitdepth:@hondomac I think that people can find change intimidating. When we're not sure where it's going we may not want to go there. #flnchat
8:22 pmrandommind:Q2: I want to hear what @stewarka says about this one :) #flnchat
8:22 pmhondomac:@bitdepth - that is so true and ties into Q2 - we need to make FL safe and appealing #flnchat
8:22 pmHenderJL:Q2: We can do it more by taking on training and practice (like this). :-) #flnchat
8:23 pmrandommind:@Mogensen hey, welcome chris! #flnchat
8:23 pmhondomac:Q2 I know that a big part of my role is to make FL something attractive - a viable alternative for all - faculty and learner alike #flnchat
8:23 pmFLNchat:@hondomac Q1: the grandboys have grandparents who are flexible educators. They only know what they see from us #flnchat
8:23 pmbitdepth:@FLNchat Q2: We should aggressively explore flexible learning ourselves & provide comfortable & solid flexibility for our learners. #flnchat
8:23 pmrandommind:@HenderJL we can say it's ok to spend time just clicking to figure stuff out #flnchat
8:24 pmFLNchat:RT @randommind: @HenderJL we can say it's ok to spend time just clicking to figure stuff out #flnchat
8:24 pmrandommind:@bitdepth hmmm ... i'm intrigued .. now what do you mean by "aggressively"? #flnchat
8:24 pmhondomac:Q1 great point @Mogensen -there is a need to recognize informal learning in FL too #flnchat
8:25 pmbitdepth:@randommind @HenderJL It's important to let people know they can't break the internet (or Twitter). #flnchat
8:25 pmrandommind:@FLNchat @hondomac maybe we need to start learning from the grandboys? #flnchat
8:25 pmrandommind:@bitdepth i remember you broke the internet once :) #flnchat
8:25 pmFLNchat:Q2: spread the word. Talk to your colleagues. Tell your boss good news stories! De-mystify the flexible! #flnchat
8:26 pmrandommind:@FLNchat "De-mystify the flexible! " love that!!! it's not that scary ... if you're ok with not knowing for a while #flnchat
8:27 pmrandommind:Q2: so how do we de-mystify the flexible? #flnchat
8:27 pmMogensen:@randommind Hey, yourself, C! #flnchat
8:27 pmFLNchat:breaking the internet: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7vf8c_it-crowd-the-internet_fun #FLNchat
8:27 pmhondomac:@FLNChat @randomind - so if we teach the grandboys about FL, if P-12 doesn't ruin them, we will have future learners who demand FL #flnchat
8:28 pmrandommind:@hondomac i think it's neat to watch how learners use technology ... i learn from THAT! #flnchat
8:28 pmrandommind:learners "blend" their course even when we don't #flnchat
8:28 pmbitdepth:@randommind We should take chances on the bleeding edge & share experiences to make it safer for those who won't take chances. #flnchat
8:29 pmHenderJL:Q2: There are lots of great FL teachings going on at NSCC that are not well known - the more sharing of best practices, the better #flnchat
8:29 pmhondomac:Q2 @randommind - we need to make FL friendly and safe and something of value to all - what do faculty and learners value? #flnchat
8:29 pmFLNchat:Q2: there are lots of learners out there like the grandboys #flnchat
8:29 pmrandommind:they use tech .... text each other, chat, facebook, etc. ... they find ways to connect outside the classroom ... we can learn lots #flnchat
8:30 pmbitdepth:@FLNchat Demystification is so important. It's not magic and you don't need superpowers, just a bit of courage and curiosity. #flnchat
8:30 pmrandommind:@FLNchat are you capturing this! these are some great ideas! #flnchat
8:30 pmhondomac:Q2 wouldn't it be cool if we let learners decide what tools they use to learn with or is that too flexible? #flnchat
8:30 pmrandommind:@hondomac rebel :) #flnchat
8:30 pmhondomac:Q2 @bitdepth and we need to foster that courage and curiosity #flnchat
8:31 pmFLNchat:@randommind oh yes... the chat will be archived on the FLN blog. #flnchat
8:31 pmrandommind:@FLNchat luvely #flnchat
8:31 pmhondomac:@randommind - think about it - I get to pick what actually works for me as a learner not what is imposed - too cool #flnchat
8:32 pmFLNchat:RT @HenderJL: Q2: There are lots of great FL teachings going on at NSCC that are not well known - the more sharing of best practices, the better #flnchat
8:32 pmbitdepth:@hondomac Maybe a scale of support for technologies from fully supported to loosely supported. Lights from green to amber to red. #flnchat
8:33 pmrandommind:@Mogensen maybe we say it's ok to come lurk? #flnchat
8:33 pmHenderJL:Q2: Faculty and students value respectful learning activities that use time effectively. #flnchat
8:33 pmFLNchat:@Mogensen let's make that Q3: How do we bring others to participate? #flnchat
8:33 pmbitdepth:@Mogensen @FLNchat Great point about Q1. Learning doesn't end when we leave the classroom! #flnchat
8:33 pmMogensen:@hondomac I'm all for letting the learners decide which tools they will use...the question is: how do we aggregate those tools? #flnchat
8:33 pmstewarka:@FLNchat That's a good one. I love YouTube. #flnchat
8:34 pmhondomac:@bitdepth - you are so right about change - what we need to do is figure out how to make change safe and fun cool to do... #flnchat
8:34 pmbitdepth:@HenderJL Sharing best practices and building community with our colleagues is at the core of flexible learning & better teaching. #flnchat
8:35 pmhondomac:@bitdepth - love the light analogy and I think it would work too- how do you see it being implemented? #flnchat
8:35 pmrandommind:@FLNchat it's easy to bring folks like us ... but i like the idea of a big tent ... we need everybody in that tent #flnchat
8:35 pmstewarka:@FLNchat Q2: I think that, the more our colleagues are exposed to our enthusiasm, the more comfortable they become. #flnchat
8:35 pmrandommind:@Mogensen so we just need to widen the world ... hmmm #flnchat
8:35 pmFLNchat:@stewarka find the clip where Jenn actually breaks the internet! Oh, the horror #ITcrowd #FLNchat
8:36 pmhondomac:Q3 - we nee dto identify the value add - WHY would I take up FL? #flnchat
8:36 pmrandommind:@stewarka definitely true for you! you're the person who turned me on to Moodle! #flnchat
8:36 pmbitdepth:@Mogensen @hondomac Maybe the key is to build a consensus of tools to use. Being inclusive is as important as being flexible. #flnchat
8:36 pmFLNchat:RT @hondomac: Q3 - we nee dto identify the value add - WHY would I take up FL? #flnchat
8:36 pmrandommind:@hondomac you'd have to answer that question for yourself, eh? #flnchat
8:37 pmrandommind:@bitdepth that way, the world is a bit safer? #flnchat
8:37 pmFLNchat:Q3: We need to make it safe to play -- for faculty and learners! #flnchat
8:37 pmbitdepth:@stewarka @FLNchat Enthusiasm is so important Kathleen! If you're not keen on something, why would someone else be? #flnchat
8:37 pmHenderJL:@randommind @FLNchat Yes I like the idea of a big tent - or how about something big on wheels - maybe a tour bus? #flnchat
8:37 pmhondomac:@Mogensen @bitdepth - I think @bitdepth is right - try to develop a consensus but maybe also allow for the outriders too #flnchat
8:38 pmrandommind:@HenderJL ahhhh that works!! #flnchat
8:38 pmrandommind:@HenderJL it works in a bigger way, too ... we need to go where people are ... physically & emotionally #flnchat
8:39 pmFLNchat:@mogensen - what aggregators are we using tonight? same tool, different aggregators : tweetdeck, twitchat, ?? #flnchat
8:39 pmbitdepth:@hondomac We could implement it by sharing what we're doing and seeing which resources can support it based on the interest. #flnchat
8:39 pmrandommind:it's ok to be the person who says "this doesn't work!" #flnchat
8:39 pmMogensen:My answer to @hondomac 's question (Q3) is a question in turn: when does an individuals learning STOP being flexible? #flnchat
8:39 pmFLNchat:RT @HenderJL: @randommind @FLNchat Yes I like the idea of a big tent - or how about something big on wheels - maybe a tour bus? #flnchat
8:40 pmrandommind:@FLNchat tweetdeck is working great for me #flnchat
8:40 pmhondomac:@bitdepth good way to do it - let the users of FL decide #flnchat
8:40 pmrandommind:@bitdepth we can doing it by helping each other #flnchat
8:40 pmhondomac:@Mogensen - hopefully never! #flnchat
8:40 pmMogensen:@FLNchat I was JUST thinking that...the aggregator is Twitter itself...the tools, though, widely and varied #flnchat
8:41 pmFLNchat:Q3:share what we do, promote the positive, eventually the tipping point occurs! #flnchat
8:41 pmrandommind:@FLNchat even when eventually seems like a looong time #flnchat
8:41 pmFLNchat:@Mogensen Aha! #flnchat
8:41 pmbitdepth:@hondomac and find a common flexible place to learn that works for teachers and students. It will change and evolve with us. #flnchat
8:41 pmrandommind:@HenderJL I'd love to do that ... we were talking about having a learning festival in Elluminate #flnchat
8:42 pmstewarka:@FLNchat Q3: I could identify how being flexible makes their teaching easier ... and better for students.#flnchat
8:42 pmHenderJL:@randommind @FLNchat What's tweetdeck? #flnchat
8:42 pmrandommind:@stewarka how so? #flnchat
8:42 pmMogensen:@FLNchat I love analogies (everyone stop looking so shocked)...maybe it's that we've lost the flexibility we had as children... #flnchat
8:42 pmrandommind:@stewarka (and I agree with you :) #flnchat
8:43 pmFLNchat:Q3: this chat is an experiment in flexible learning, in sharing ideas, in building community. Love it! #flnchat
8:43 pmhondomac:@bitdepth - that's exactly what we need - question now is what is that place? #flnchat
8:43 pmstewarka:@FLNchat Q3: And start with little things ... baby steps. #flnchat
8:43 pmrandommind:@Mogensen some of the most flexible classrooms are kindergarten classrooms :) #flnchat
8:43 pmrandommind:@Mogensen i always think kindergarden classrooms come the closest to what it looks like to learn online #flnchat
8:44 pmFLNchat:@HenderJL check this out after Janice: http://www.tweetdeck.com/ #flnchat
8:44 pmrandommind:@HenderJL take a peek http://bit.ly/cxbsQB #flnchat
8:44 pmhondomac:@FLNChat for me it's Tweetdeck on the Mac, PC and iPhone... #flnchat
8:45 pmFLNchat:I would go earlier than that @Mogensen Visit a preschool room at child care centre. Learning through play! #flnchat
8:45 pmbitdepth:@stewarka @FLNchat Baby steps are so important. Build on simple things that work & not need to build a perfect monolithic system. #flnchat
8:45 pmrandommind:@Mogensen and that gets back to what @HenderJL said about learning by clicking around ... that's a great way to learn #flnchat
8:46 pmrandommind:@HenderJL if you try it, let us know what you think #flnchat
8:46 pmhondomac:@FLNChat - interesting as schooling gets older - more 12, less P, the classrooms become more and more colourless and generic #flnchat
8:46 pmbitdepth:@FLNchat Why does the play go away? Learning should always be fun. #flnchat
8:47 pmFLNchat:@casey219 It can be fast and furious! lurking is OK. And commenting afterwards on the blog is good too #flnchat
8:47 pmrandommind:@hondomac the more inflexible and teacher-centered #flnchat
8:48 pmrandommind:hey @casey219, join the fun !! #flnchat
8:48 pmMogensen:RT @hondomac: @FLNChat - interesting as schooling gets older - more 12, less P, the classrooms become more and more colourless and generic #flnchat
8:48 pmhondomac:@randommind Hmmm... we need to get rid of teacher-centred learning - life as a teacher is so much better when it;s NOT about you! #flnchat
8:49 pmFLNchat:consider all the possiblities as options :-) I had to kick the grandboy off the netbook for this -- checking out Club Penguin #flnchat
8:50 pmrandommind:@hondomac maybe that's what @stewarka was saying about your job being easier when you teach flexibly ... what do you think? #flnchat
8:50 pmbitdepth:@hondomac @randommind It can be hard to move away from teacher-centred teaching for learners & teachers, but it's worth the effort. #flnchat
8:50 pmrandommind:@HenderJL how did it work? did folks on campus share what they were doing? teach other people? #flnchat
8:50 pmFLNchat:Q4: Time is fleeting and the first #flnchat is drawing to a close. Now we provide final thoughts / comments / suggestions #flnchat
8:51 pmhondomac:@HenderJL and the folks here are the ones to do it - deliver workshops/ learning moments that will help demystify FL #flnchat
8:51 pmFLNchat:RT @HenderJL: Q3: A few years ago we offered campus workshops on new technology - I think people might like workshops re best practices in FL. #flnchat
8:51 pmbitdepth:@FLNchat That's neat! We're moving away from the need to do things in one place at one time in one mode. That's flexible! #flnchat
8:52 pmFLNchat:RT @hondomac: @HenderJL and the folks here are the ones to do it - deliver workshops/ learning moments that will help demystify FL #flnchat
11:52 pmFLNchat:Q4: and be sure to provide a shameless plug as well :) #flnchat
11:52 pmrandommind:@bitdepth maybe the hardest thing to do ... sometimes it feels like you're not doing your job ... it needs to be ok to do that #flnchat
11:52 pmhondomac:@bitdepth I think moving away from teacher-centred teaching is the single most important thing we can do - dropping content too #flnchat
8:53 pmrandommind:@HenderJL are you planning to do it again? sounds fantastic #flnchat
8:53 pmhondomac:Q$ - this has been great! - need to spread the word - come one come all #flnchat
8:54 pmMogensen:@randommind @bitdepth That trust has to extend into all workplaces, too...why do I have to be at my desk to do my job? #flnchat
8:54 pmbitdepth:@HenderJL Workshops and sharing and helping people learn and use these tools effectively is vital. #flnchat
8:55 pmrandommind:Q4: I second @HenderJL ! Thanks everyone! The time has gone so fast. #flnchat #flnchat
8:55 pmFLNchat:Q4: My shameless plug: Daughter & g-daughter in Buck65 video:http://www.contactmusic.com/videos.nsf/stream/buck-65-zombie-delight #flnchat
8:55 pmgarethwall:@casey219 just checked out yr #flnchat check out @C4LPT some brilliant stuff. Great site and a good twitter discussion twice a week
8:55 pmFLNchat:RT @Mogensen: @randommind @bitdepth That trust has to extend into all workplaces, too...why do I have to be at my desk to do my job? #flnchat
8:55 pmrandommind:@HenderJL any chance you'd consider being involved with organizing something like that online? #flnchat
8:56 pmbitdepth:@randommind @hondomac That's why "facilitator" makes more sense some time. You're helping along, not teaching at someone. #flnchat
8:56 pmMogensen:@FLNchat This has been wonderful...thanks to all! #flnchat
8:56 pmhondomac:@Mogensen - I think you are right - we need to re-vision learning and the workplace - one follows the other #flnchat
8:57 pmrandommind:@hondomac @Mogensen it needs to be about what we do, not where we are #flnchat
8:57 pmFLNchat:Q4: Shameless plug # 2: Virtual worlds best practices in education this week: www.vwbpe.org 17-19 Mar. 52 hrs of amazing! #flnchat
8:57 pmrandommind:@FLNchat Lorraine, thanks SO MUCH for organizing this ... you're changing the world #flnchat
8:58 pmhondomac:@bitdeoth - so true - we all need to get feedback that "we can't teach!" - means we are truly facilitating and being flexible #flnchat
8:58 pmstewarka:@FLNchat Q4: This has been great. My first twitter chat ... or tweet chat ... or tweeter? Anyway, I'm an expert now. :) #flnchat
8:58 pmgarethwall:#flnchat @C4LPT has an awesome top 100 tools for learning if you haven't already seen it WWW.c4lpt.com
8:58 pmrandommind:@stewarka glad you're here #flnchat
8:58 pmbitdepth:What a great conversation and start to #flnchat . A flexible use of technology to have a discussion that will expand over time. Thanks!
8:59 pmFLNchat:you betchat @stewarka we are twits together :-) #flnchat
8:59 pmFLNchat:Spread the word. Invite others. See you in 2 weeks! The archive will be up on the blog in a day or so. #flnchat
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